Notre Dame's Season So Far: Brian Kelly is Under Fire, But Does it Matter?
I thought this was going to be easier. I wrote at various points in the offseason that "Talent + Successful Coaching = Winning." It seemed so easy at the time, but as always, you get sucked into the offseason talk of "This guy looks great" and the "Why not us?" and can't clearly see all of the potential problems. On top of those obvious potential problems (new quarterback in a new system, safeties, outside linebackers, defensive line depth), a whole heap of additional troubles have accrued over the season so far.
The losses to Navy and Tulsa are as bad as Notre Dame has seen, and goodness, there have been a lot of terrible losses over the past decade. Navy was a failure of scheme on defense and of poor decision-making at quarterback on offense, the Middies complete confidence in their system embarrassing the Irish in East Rutherford. The Tulsa game was so much weirder, with scores on a blocked extra point, a punt return, a tipped bubble screen interception return and a hook and ladder. Notre Dame played most of the game without their starting quarterback, didn't give up a defensive touchdown after the initial Tulsa drive and then found themselves within field goal range as the clock ticked down. And of course this entire game was played with the tragic passing of a Notre Dame student hanging over the entire Stadium. Not an ideal position for any team.
If David Ruffer gets an opportunity to kick that field goal and makes it (and I was very much in the "Let's get more yardage" camp, not because of a lack of faith in Ruffer, just that if anyone was due for a soul-sucking miss, it was the guy who had been so perfectly fantastic all season), are people freaking out as much as they are now? The "Okay, this is rock bottom" and "Brian Kelly will never win at Notre Dame" posts and tweets started dribbling out late Saturday afternoon, followed by false prophets touting that they know the way to fix things if you just trust them. Not an ideal position for any fan base.
This program was broken, and there is no easy quick fix, despite what many of us hoped. An immediate turnaround won't come from Brian Kelly, and likely not from anyone else either. This was a team that won sixteen games in three years, then lost its best two players to the draft. It was learning its third new defensive system in as many years, and a brand new offensive scheme with a quarterback with very limited experience, along with youth along the lines. By the end of the first quarter against Tulsa, the Irish were down their opening day starters at quarterback, running back, tight end, wide receiver, nose tackle and inside linebacker. It's almost silly when you lay it all out and consider the amount of experience that went down with Ian Williams, Armando Allen and Kyle Rudolph, along with the exciting potential of Dayne Crist, Theo Riddick and Carlo Calabrese. Not an ideal position for any coach
Yet despite these losses, Notre Dame battled on Saturday. I realize it was Tulsa, a team that was totally overmatched talent-wise, but it was a team comfortable in their system with a prolific offense playing a game they considered the biggest in their school's history. There's Tommy Rees, flinging it all over the yard*, to sophomores Tyler Eifert, Roby Toma and Cierre Wood, along with freshman TJ Jones. There's sophomore Manti Te'o, always all over the place, and freshman Kona Schwenke in his first career game recovering a big fumble.
* I understand the criticism of Kelly throwing the ball that many times with his back-up quarterback, but Tulsa was the worst team in the country in defending the pass and it's not like the Irish running game has been particularly inspiring the last couple weeks. Whether it was the inability to pick up three inches last week against Navy or a pulling guard and running back allowing a single tackler to stuff a third down conversion on Saturday, I don't think Notre Dame is going to win many games relying on their rushing attack.
Again, these are small battles in a greater game that was lost, but if you want to break it down, aren't all of the games in 2010 just learning experiences as we try to get the program on a positive trajectory? You would think a fan base that saw Weis and Willingham start off so strongly and fizzle wouldn't be fazed by a slow start (hey, let's try this the other way!), but everyone wants their oompa loompa now. It's not like this is me just trying to be overly positive just to be contrarian towards the wailing masses, as I did write this prior to the Purdue game:
Wins and losses are important, obviously, but I want to see a team that's better in November than it is in September and one that's better in 2011 than it is in 2010. Kelly is about a long-term fix for a program that needs it, and getting caught up in individual results in his inaugural season will do nothing but drive fans crazy.
Well, it's November now. And granted, it will be difficult to really judge this team versus the one that played in September when you're going to be down so many key players, but we can still evaluate. The remaining three games are all intriguing tests in different ways:
- Utah: A team that could be undefeated next Saturday, totally confident in its system, capable of winning on enemy soil (Michigan in Ann Arbor, Alabama in New Orleans) and with success over the past decade Notre Dame fans would punt puppies for. But they also could be a bit of a paper tiger - we'll find out more Saturday in their game with TCU - and the Irish will be coming off a bye.
- Army (n): A neutral site game against a team that would have been a multiple touchdown underdog earlier in the season, but after Notre Dame's complete meltdown against Navy's option, could pose serious problems in a unique environment. The Irish last lost to Army in 1958, so yeah, this is sort of a must win.
- At Southern Cal: Notre Dame last defeated the Trojans in 2001. USC is on probation and can't go to a bowl game, so this will be one of their last chances in the 2010 season to make a statement. If you think the pressure is on Brian Kelly, if the Trojans stumble the next couple of weeks, there could be some serious heat on the seat of Kelly's first-year opponent, Lane Kiffin.
But here's the thing: Even if Notre Dame loses out, Brian Kelly isn't going to be fired, because coaches don't get fired after one year. So while I'll certainly be nearly catatonic following that hypothetical Army loss - but in New York City, so at least the bars will be open late to drink away the memories - there is little chance it matters. Kelly's future will be decided in how this team performs in years two and three, so all of your letter-writing, non-donating and calling for Lou Holtz to step in as interim coach - something I've read on the same message board every season since 2007 - is not going to amount to much. You can generally tell what you have with a coach by his second or third year, while anyone can look good or bad when the sample size is a scant nine games.
Win-loss record wasn't the most important thing going into the season, and it's not the end-all and be-all now. Do I want to see the team win every week? Absolutely, but even more than that, I want to see this team win every year, and there's work to be done to get to that point. Players need to be prepared, they need to buy into the system and they need to believe in themselves and Brian Kelly. As far as fans go, they can tune out, get mad or calmly observe, but it is not going to matter. Kelly is going to be the coach for the next couple years, and while I may have faith and you may doubt, it's not going to do you any good to get worked up about it. This is going to be a process, and as soon as Notre Dame fans accept that there is no magic bullet that will thrust them back into consistent greatness, the easier it will be to accept.
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That's a great read, CW.
I agree with the win/loss record. This season never had high expectations and so I have not been very upset with the last two losses. But I want to see improvement, and I can’t say I’ve seen that. But this season could have gone very differently. We played Michigan and Michigan State very well. If Crist (who I doubt will ever start for us again) doesn’t get hurt and Dantoni doesn’t grow a huge pair, we win both those games. We’re 3-0 to start the season. We may play Stanford differently and make it a closer game, though I doubt we’d have won even then, and the Navy game goes much differently. If there isn’t a tragedy three days before the Tulsa game the team comes out focused and ready to play, or if we’re a one loss team the players may make more of an effort to win the game for a friend.
But that’s football. It didn’t go our way this year at all. That being the case, what’s the difference between a 1 point loss to Tulsa or a 2 point win? Both are embarassing considering the competition and our legacy. So we’ve got three games left and I want to see one thing: I want to know if this team gives up, if Kelly gives up. If the team makes a game against Utah, beats Army, and makes it close against USC, I’m going to remain confident about Kelly. It’ll tell me he has their attention enough to keep them from quiting when the season is essentially over, and that tells me he has their attention enough to teach them what he knows.
No one should be caught up in the whole “We should beat Tulsa and Navy.” Those schools will never vie for a national championship, but they’re still good schools and can beat anyone on any given Saturday. It sucks that we lost to them, but it’s not the end of the world, and the only thing it says about Notre Dame is that we’re not ready to vie for a national championship ourselves yet. But we should have all known that already.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
by BravePhin on Nov 3, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I Agree
It was easy to look at the schedule and think that this would be a great year. Both Willingham and Weiss came out of the gate strong, so why shouldn’t Kelly? The schedule looked soft based the historical records of the opponents. (Even though Stanford beat us last year it was because they had a Heisman Trophy runner up. They couldn’t possible be any good this year) . And Dayne Crist was going to step up from being a back up without any significant playing time, learn a new offense and be better than an NLF starting quarterback (at least for a game or two) Jimmy Clausen. I think a visit to the optometrist is in order because most of us looked at this season through rose colored glasses.
I think there are a lot of good things that are happening this year that will bode well for next year. The attitude of this team is much better than it was last year. They play hard all game long and do not run out of gas because they are poorly conditioned. Injuries are a problem, but it has forced Kelly to go deep into his roster and give the starters of tomorrow experience today.
The Tulsa game hopefully was an anomaly. Take a major disappointment from the weekend before and then combine it with a horrible tragedy that all the players witnessed, and of course they were going to be depressed and flat. In spite of that, the defense played hard and effectively shut down one a strong passing attack. In the back of everyone’s mind is that the team should have been fired up to win the game in convincing style for Declan. We all think about Rockne and ’Win One for the Gipper" What we forget is that the season was already over when Gip died and Rockne delivered the speech 8 years later to a team that did not know him personally. That was an unrealistic expectation.
A game against Notre Dame is always a high point of the season for our opponents. No matter what our record is, the chance to play and possibly beat the Irish fires up every team, from Tulsa to USC. The challenge for the coaching staff and the team is to raise their game each and every week to the heightened state of their opponent. (Tell me that Navy was as fired up for Duke last week as they were for the Irish the week before)
My big concern for the team (and maybe even the student body to some degree) is the long term state of depression that seems to be affecting it. The team needs to stop believing that something will go wrong and start believing in themselves and their team mates. This is the toughest problem that Kelly and his coaches need to address. If it was an individual, you could prescribe antidepressants and one-on-one therapy. With a team of 100 impressionable students, I’m not sure how you address the problem.
by Irondude on Nov 3, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
This is exactly my thoughts...
But written so much more gooder than I could.
I was randomly lying in bed last night, and couldn’t believe how injured this team is… I really hope this team switches away from the 3-4.
broken sun clocks a dog's ass every twice and again --- Crooow
Not again!
What would that be, like the 5th scheme in 4 years. We need to pick the one the coaches believe in, stick to it, and teach our players how to execute it over time.
I don't think this is as big a deal as you think.
I would Imagine 99% of high schools run a 4-3 defense. And its just so hard to find a good NT to play the 3-4 properly. And since Notre Dame traditionally doesn’t find a lot of elite Linebackers it just seems that this would be the best long term decision.
Especially since more and more teams are switching to a spread offense you are going to have more DB’s on the field anyway.
broken sun clocks a dog's ass every twice and again --- Crooow
by averagegatsby on Nov 4, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The logics
they hurt our brain.
I want to see a team that’s better in November than it is in September.
This point is key, I think. I had the opportunity to meet Coach Kelly back in April, and he made a simple point that stuck in my mind: This team is 1-8 over the past two Novembers. There’s a number of things to blame for that, but the point is that the last time a Notre Dame team looked better at the end of the season than at the beginning was (ack) 2007.
So now the Irish are looking at a very long shot at all-important bowl eligibility. What deeply concerns me, and much of the fanbase, I think, is that this team is starting to revert back to bad habits that had apparently been exorcised in September. To wit, shoe-tackling, arm-tackling, stupid penalties, special teams gaffes, giving up long third downs, etc. If those old bad habits persist, it’s going to be another ugly November.
If Kelly can get to 6-6, I, for one, will be much encouraged, because that will probably mean that:
a) Diaco stopped Army’s triple option; and
b) Notre Dame pulled off a major upset (Utah or USC).
We’ll see what happens.
Excellent summary, and as a former Dillonite, keep the supa-bass down, please.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 6:22 PM EDT reply actions
Amen brother!
I’m glad someone has the guts to speak up for Coach Kelly. I have seen vast improvements in just one year. I would love to have everything turn around in one year, but that is just not realistic and it wouldn’t really reflect what a coach has done to developing players which is how you build a program. In this age of mob frenzy and leader bashing it is refreshing to read an article of someone standing up for an opinion that may not be popular with the fair-weather fan, armchair quarterback, and the great inquisitor. Brian Kelly will get it done ~ I still have faith!
Wrong! It does matter
Your article was well written and makes excellent points…… except, the thesis is completely inaccurate. You write:
“But here’s the thing: Even if Notre Dame loses out, Brian Kelly isn’t going to be fired, because coaches don’t get fired after one year. So while I’ll certainly be nearly catatonic following that hypothetical Army loss – but in New York City, so at least the bars will be open late to drink away the memories – there is little chance it matters. Kelly’s future will be decided in how this team performs in years two and three.”
While I’ll agree that if ND loses out, a reasonable possibility, that Kelly will still be the coach (probably) next year. However, I contend that the next three games has everything to do with what happens 2-3 seasons from now.
1. Not being bowl eligible means loss of 15 practices will hurt – This will impact future years.
2. Losing the next three will hurt recruiting. ND’s 2011 class went from top 5 to out of top 10 in about 2 nanoseconds. Even if ND circles the wagons and keeps defections to a minimum, chances of landing top uncommitted recruits will be bleak.
3. The fuel that drives the engine is money. Lose the next 3 and NBC execs will be looking very silly. Even it ND was able to renew the TV contract, it would be for much less bank.
4. Speaking of money, ND has always taken the approach that we can solve anything with money. And to an extend, this is true. However, because of a series of self inflicted wounds, ND is a) still paying for Ty’s rounds of golf in sunny California, b) armored cars will be rolling up to W’s home for years to come, c) not to minimize the human tragedy of what happened to DS, but that will have a huge financial impact, and d) Kelly has a 6-year deal.
Does it matter? Absolutely. I’m not privy to the inner workings of the ND braintrust, but there is one thing that puts fear into all ND faithful…. joining a conference. Joining a conference takes away the rarefied air. If all of the events on and off the field continue the current trajectory (starting with the next three games), ND starts to run out of options.
Speaking of joining a conference….. In the midst all of the bowl realignment, ND had an opportunity to join the Big 10 and, as they are so adept at doing, looked down their nose and declined. If things continue, Kelly will be back coaching in the Big East.
A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step. 2 to 3 seasons from now probably seems like a thousand miles away.
agreed, while i think a national championship in the near future is unrealistic, there is room for optimism. I think losing those games will hurt in recruiting though.
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That conference conversation is an interesting one
It may be the only thing that can make us competitive again. Most of the games will have far more meaning. A BCS bid probably isn’t in the minds of players who haven’t had a solid season in years, so the games against Michigan State and Michigan and Purdue probably don’t mean as much to them now as they would if we were part of the BIg Ten (or, likewise, the Big East if that were to happen), because a conference championship is always going to be more attainable than a BCS championship. I know the college would lose out on money, and it’d be a knock on the ego for college and many fans, but ND can’t be making much money as it is losing as often as we are.
It’d suck if we did get into the Big Ten or Big East and continue losing.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
This would be great except...
We have, literally, been reading the same things since ’95.
“This won’t happen overnight.”
“It’s a new scheme.”
I have been extremely optimistic for the 15 years. I throw out the same rhetoric. This new coach will be the answer, and the next big recruit will change things.
So the question is, at what point do we all just realize Notre Dame football is the Chicago Cubs of college football.
“Just wait ’til next year.”
I no longer get worked up because I no longer have expectations. I tried to get worked up again last Saturday and I heard the same things from the fans in my section “DOWN IN FRONT! SIT DOWN!” The only thing that has been more soul crushing than the losses has been the absolute waste that has become Notre Dame stadium. “Welcome to Notre Dame Retirement Home and Daycare Center, enjoy the game, but not too much, and sober.”
regardless... You can't expect a coach to make a complete turnaround in one year...
So either way… Good coach or bad, we wont know for another year or two.
broken sun clocks a dog's ass every twice and again --- Crooow
by averagegatsby on Nov 5, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure what the alternative is
The “wait until next year” thing isn’t just the Cubs, it’s every sports fan who roots for a losing team. The fact the Cubs get sole credit for this is annoying.
As far as I see it, you have two options when your team is losing at the beginning of a new coach’s tenure:
1) Wait for next year.
2) Give up on the team.
Not really a lot of other options.
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by CW on Nov 5, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cubs deserve it
They haven’t won in 102 years. Please don’t compare ND football having a few bad years with that magnitude of futility.
The Cubs deserve it
They haven’t won in 102 years. Please don’t compare ND football having a few bad years with that magnitude of futility.
George Zip
concentrate… concentrate… I’ve got to concentrate… concentrate… concentrate… Hello?… hello… hello… Echo… echo… echo… Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon… Manny Mota… Mota… Mota…
Airplane reference FTW!
I just want to tell you both good luck, we’re all counting on you.
I thought the same thing and almost commented about it
I was thinking, "We’d only be the Cubs of the NCAA if the Cubs had about 28 World Series titles. " We’re more like the Yankees of the 80s and early 90s.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
Anything can happen
I live in the SF Bay Area. I just mailed my game six World Series tickets in for a refund because our Giants finally snapped out of their 56 year string of torture. It may take time, but the Irish will be back. If you don’t like games at ND, then don’t go. I’m sure you can find someone to buy your tickets.
2 points
1) Do you think Notre Dame will EVER be back to being a national powerhouse? I have trouble seeing how it could happening, but if there were blogs back in 1990 and someone asked whether the Yankees would ever dominate again, I would have said no, and we all know how that turned out. Maybe it’s unrealistic to hope for complete dominance for a decade or more, but is there any hope of a 3-5 year period where Notre Dame is consistently a Top 10 team, with at least one national title in there? How about a couple of Top 10 finishes and a title?
2) I live in NYC, and was hoping that a bad Notre Dame team would make the ND/Army tickets affordable. Doesn’t look like it – the cheapest tickets on StubHub are still $149.
by long time listener on Nov 5, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions
It will happen
What nobody from South Bend wants to talk about is that it may take a long time. But realistically you can’t ever say “never.” Never is a really long time and a lot of things can happen even in a short time.
Remember Lou Holtz finished 5-6 his first season with some pretty good juniors and seniors who didn’t know how to win. And his schedule was really no tougher at the time than Kelly’s is now. The next year they were one loss away from glory and the year after that they were on top of the world. Turnarounds in College Football can come without warning and come fast. This team could finish 4-8 but win ten games next season simply because they have a year under their belts (and they aren’t completely destroyed by injuries like we’ve been this year).
College Football moves in perpetual cycles. Every team in the Top 25 this season has had long stretches of mediocrity and futility balanced out by periods of utter greatness. And as much as we put a shine on Notre Dame history, the fact is UND has had some of these periods as well. We’ve never had one as long as this time around, but everything has to happen for a first time.
Five years from now we might all be looking back at this time and laughing. Or we might be shaking our heads in sorrow. Time will tell. But we have to give it TIME!
by GoldrushND on Nov 6, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just have to find that one guy
The coach that makes all the difference. Kelly may or may not be that guy, but a lot of really great coaches had a rough time their first couple of years. Winning is a harder thing to teach than football, imo.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
The majority of those who are questioning BK's abilities as a coach
had ridiculous expectations for this season.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
Agreed
Hopefully recruiting wont take a hit due to recent events.
dear gar/pax,
trade for carmelo anthony.
thank you
by chicago030 on Nov 6, 2010 5:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm a utah fan and just want to know how many injuries your team has. I know you have the second string qb in.
I think i saw that your tight end and rb are out too. Anybody else banged up? I expect a good game from both teams this saturday. Good luck.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 9, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Starting QB, TE, RB are out... Dinged up number 1 WR.
I think our starting NT is out for the year too.
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by averagegatsby on Nov 9, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions

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