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Game Recap: Stanford 37 Notre Dame 14

What would you like first, the bad stuff or the perspective stuff?  Considering the general tone of the Irish internet these last 36 hours, let's go ahead and get the bad stuff out of the way first.

The offense was miserable most of the day, reminding me a lot of 2007, when an overmatched defense hung in and hung in and was just left out to dry by their counterparts before finally cracking.  After spending the first half seeing all kinds of pressure, Dayne Crist and Brian Kelly could not adjust to the continual dropping of eight defensive players in the third and fourth quarters.  The offensive line was flummoxed as well, conceding sacks to three man rushes as players were looking around for more people to block.  Kelly and Crist both took responsibility, but you want and need the coaching staff to be able to make adjustments throughout the second half.  I thought the two playcalls at midfield at the start of the fourth quarter were both rather terrible, both Crist's incompletion and a poorly designed run with Jonas Gray

I also think the offensive ineptitude was so jarring because there was a trajectory to things prior to Saturday, as Crist continually and consistently improved from Purdue through Michigan State.  Stanford was a different caliber of defense playing a scheme he hadn't seen, and the results were not pleasant.  Again, this is both Crist's fourth career start and his fourth in Kelly's system, so hopefully we can chalk this up as a learning experience and not a harbinger of continued problems.  (If you're a crazy person, you would deem the coach, quarterback and offensive system a bust after this one game, and that's a totally legitimate thing to do.)

On defense, they hung in there as long as you could expect.  Two picks of the previously unblemished Andrew Luck, but too many long third down conversions.  (Most of these were slot receivers attacking the middle of the field, exposing perhaps the two biggest areas of concern on the Irish defense, outside linebacker and safety.)  The defensive line got minimal push and was a nonentity most of the day. Special teams were also an issue.  David Ruffer continues to be fantastic, but kick returns were awful and there was a major issue with punting again.

It was a poor effort by the offense and special teams, and the defense was too soft on third down.  Now, can we give some credit to Stanford?  That was a very good football team, with a quarterback some said would have gone number one in last year's draft and a punch of veterans Jim Harbaugh has been grooming into his fourth year.  Stanford absolutely embarrassed UCLA 35-0, and in their three other games, the Bruins lost a close one at Kansas State and hammered Houston and Texas in Austin.  And I know the final score was lopsided, but at the start of the fourth quarter, Notre Dame had the ball at midfield down 19-6.  We're going to know a lot more about how much credit Stanford should get versus blame for the Irish in two weeks, as the Cardinal take on Oregon and Southern Cal, but I don't think they're going to fade too from relevancy this season.

A few other notes for everyone jumping off bridges:

  • The three teams that defeated Notre Dame are a combined 12-0 and all ranked in the Top 25. 
  • Two of the other quarterbacks who have knocked off the Irish are in the Heisman conversation, and one of them had his worst game of the year against Notre Dame.
  • Despite everyone on Rock's House getting lathered up over Harbaugh's power running game and the Kelly's Irish apparently being some sort of weak-willed, roll over and die team, the Cardinal averaged a whopping 3.8 yards per carry. 
  • From what I'm reading, this Notre Dame team was supposed to be undefeated and because they're not, Kelly is clearly a failure.  From what I remember, this was a 6-6 team last year that was carried by their quarterback (3700 yards, 28 touchdowns a season ago) and an all-world wide receiver who would be regarded as one of the all-time greats if he played for better teams.  Both now play on Sundays.
  • The idea that a coach could come in and completely change the culture of a team in four games playing against some quality competition is ridiculous.  "This sure looks a lot like last year!" you'll say, and I'll reply "Maybe because so many of the players are the same, perhaps?!".  I don't know how some of these critics had the patience to graduate from Notre Dame, as I'm sure they wanted to just wander over to the main building in October of their freshman year and demand their diploma. 

I'm as disappointed as anyone that the season has started at 1-3, but it's not like this wasn't a possibility, no matter if you were all-in on Kelly, cautiously optimistic or still pining for Mark Richt (who might be available!).  Here's what I wrote on the final day of August:

One reason things could not go as well?  Well, there are a lot of losses sitting there.  Purdue, Michigan State and Boston College all could have beaten the Irish last year if a bounce went there way.  Navy, Pitt, Stanford, Michigan and USC did.  Utah was undefeated two years ago and isn't afraid to play anyone.  Tulsa returns all of their skill players from an offensive system that can be trouble for anyone.  I'd safely chalk up Army and Western Michigan as W's, but after those two and Tulsa, there aren't a lot of games that you can count as a definite win.  If Notre Dame loses Saturday, then one of the Michigan speedsters get loose a couple times, you're now 0-2 and heading into a primetime game in East Lansing.  Then hosting possible number one pick Andrew Luck and a hard-hitting Stanford team.  Then to Boston College, then Dion Lewis, Greg Romeus and Jonathan Baldwin come to town.  There isn't a chance to breathe until mid-October, and by then the season could already be a lost cause.

1-3 is shocking and totally unforeseeable!....unless you actually thought about how the season could go before it started.  I'd certainly love for the record to be better than it is, but is there any reason to overreact now?  What will it achieve?  Can we at least wait a season?  Half a season?  I realize it is amazingly fun to spew vitriol and cast judgment, but let's see how the offense bounces back from its worst performance of the year, because we know the talent and pedigree is there.  And let's see how the defense works against two teams who have had serious issues scoring the football so far this year, as opposed to two of the best quarterbacks in the country. 

You've all seen the numbers on how first year coaches (Jim Harbaugh lost to the 2007 Irish team at home, and now he's just perfect), and you're well aware of how hot starts for the last two Irish coaches amounted to nothing.  There are eight games (hopefully nine) left in this season, so again, patience people.  It's not going to hurt anything to leave your "Jump to Conclusion" mat at home for a little longer.

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I would agree with most of what you said but this is going to be the 4th straight awful season in a row and next year doesn’t look any different. There are coaches that have turned things around the first season (Bo Pelini) of taking over a program (9-4 first year). After being there 3 years his team is on its way to a NC and undefeated season with a true freshman at the helm. Even CW took what TW had in the cupboard and produced 2 of the best seasons since Holtz. These ND players are use to losing, its contagious. You can see it on Floyd’s face. I think Stanford will lose two games this year and ND will win 4. If BK doesn’t win 9 games next year he’ll be in the same predicament RichRod is in. And we know M isn’t that good. At this point I would pick BC by 3 and Pitt by 7. Navy by 3 and USC by 35.

by Sterling James on Sep 27, 2010 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

BC and Pitt are very beatable.

Navy will be tough, but they’re a good team, should win 10 games this year. USC by 35? Wow, for a team that barely beat Minnesota, I think that’s a stretch.

ND is a 7-5 or 6-6 team, and to think they would do better this season was a reach. Yes, the loss to Stanford was bad, but Stanford is a better team. Had ND caught some breaks this year they’d be 3-1, its not like they’ve been getting blown out/shut out in each game.

Also, Nebraska wins the National Championship? Um…no. The Big XII is soft, so they may make it to their conference championship game, but Alabama or Ohio St would give them a beating.

I’m hoping that this loss to Stanford was a bad game for the offense and that the offense will rebound against BC. Weis left Kelly with the cupboard essentially dry on D, so their lack of defense should not surprise anyone. This season will be much like last season, a lot of high scoring close games/nail-biters, ND will maybe win some, maybe not. But Kelly was not left with the same caliber of players that Weis started with. Quinn, Samardzija, Carlson, McKnight, Stovall, Walker > Crist, Floyd, Rudolph, Allen. And Te’o and Ethan Johnson are fine pieces on Defense, but not enough. Zbikowski was a difference maker in the secondary for Weis’s first couple years and that is something Kelly does not have. And while I’m Te’o, he had 21 tackles, great, but he could have had more and took terrible lanes to many of these tackles. I was at the game and saw Te’o take terrible routes to tackles numerous times, he’d get the guy after a gain of 8, but if he’d taken a better angle, should have had him after a gain of 2. Te’o will continue to improve though, and he could develop into a great LB.

"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella

by tripdenten on Sep 27, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here are my 2 bits on the previous 2 coaches.

I think Ty was a good recruiter who could get his players to improve, but was a terrible game day coach. I think Weis was great recruiter, terrible getting his players to progress, and a good game caller.

So when Weis came to ND he was able to take his great strategies and apply them to good recruiting classes that improved under a good coach. Now Kelly has inherited a bunch of good recruits, that are only good recruits that haven’t really improved since being recruited.

Hopefully Kelly will be a combination of the 2 coaches. If he is a good recruiter who is able to improve his players, and have good in game strategies then hopefully we can do well. It just seems to me that Kelly started off with a hand tied behind his back.

broken sun clocks a dog's ass every twice and again --- Crooow

by averagegatsby on Sep 27, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

BC by 3???

nice pick Nostradamus

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Oct 3, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Back in my day when Ara was coach

We never lost a game unless we felt like losing. We routinely played with 10 players at a time. Just to challenge ourselves. Sometimes we would let the girls softball team play defense for us, and we’d shutout Stanford.

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Sep 27, 2010 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently Notre Dame is not the program it used to be...

WHO KNEWS?!

Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Colts, Hoyas, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
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by SuperNewb on Sep 27, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The people calling for Kelly to get a quick ax and and all of that...

Are out of luck, he’s going to get his chance, he’s going to be around for more than a year, I can’t see him being around for any less than his contract… so who cares what they say?

Give it time, we weren’t going to a BCS bowl this year.

Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Colts, Hoyas, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
BU Hockey: National Champions 1971, 1972, 1978, 1995, 2009

by SuperNewb on Sep 27, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

here we go again

trying to salvage some pride in an already lost season against the bc eagles who hate our guts and who have perfected the art of stomping on our throats. oh misery, this really sux…

by brian custer on Sep 27, 2010 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

At least

BC went down 19-0 last weekend—to a no doubt very angry, still very good, Virginia Tech, but I’m trying to hope.

"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill

by lordsummer on Sep 28, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something is not right.

My first trip to South Bend was a 1985 game against Pitt. As a loyal Indian fan, I have been to last 4 Stanford-ND tilts at South Bend and I was surprised at how bad it’s gotten for the Irish in the last 10 years. By the late third quarter you could hear a pin drop, and there were still 80k in the stands. Indiana has a large HD scoreboard and more information about the game stats and scores from around the country. And the current gathering of Irish faithful, have limited football IQ’s, come across as rubes and treated Stanford fans like we were from West freakin’ Virginia. Acting like you’re 4-0 and headed to play ‘Bama in the BCS, and the reality that you are no better than 6-6 with a weak B-10, Big East schedule is not just a river in Egypt. Grow up Irish fan, find some class and remember that Gipp died from over exposure after a drunken binder…

by Lord Willie on Sep 28, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm glad you joined this blog just to make that comment

Try spending an afternoon in Columbus, Baton Rouge, Ann Arbor or East Lansing, and then get back to me about how the ND fans mistreated you.

by JSB on Sep 28, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like pretty standard treatment for a fan of a visiting team.

Don’t like it? Don’t go. If I went to a game as an ND fan to Michigan St. or USC or Stanford, I wouldn’t expect to be treated all that great. This goes for most sports, I’m a Cubs fan, and when I go to Comiskey or Miller Park I don’t expect hugs from people sitting around me. Cleveland Stadium: got a beer dumped on my head when the Bears scored a TD, opposing fans rarely get good treatment. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

You labeling ND fans as un-knowledgeable and rubes makes you come off as a smug Stanford fan, perhaps getting a little too excited over a victory over a now 1 and 3 team.

ND’s schedule? Its tougher than most believe, SOS is 17th and ND’s three losses have been to ranked opponents, two of them by less than a TD.

Enjoy the success while you have it, because Harbaugh will jump ship as soon as he’s offered a pro head coaching gig.

"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella

by tripdenten on Sep 29, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Die Luft der Freiheit weht

If you wish to be included in the company of TOSU, LSU, two schools from up North and Brown fan, go right ahead. As for coach Harbaugh, the Farm competes with the best athletics across all sports, not great coaches who have some "scheme’ in mind. We can even win with Ty. When Jimmy’s wind of freedom blows to the Niners next year, we might stumble but Warner preceded Taylor, who preceded Ralston, who preceded Walsh et. al.

by Lord Willie on Sep 29, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Gibberish

Your post is gibberish. If you really want to compare Stanford’s long-term football record with ND go right ahead. Even if you just take the last 15 years ND still comes out on top. Harbaugh is doing a lot right out there, but let’s seem him put together multiple top 10 years before crowning Stanford the next college football power.

by JSB on Sep 30, 2010 1:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jess would not be impressed

The fact that ND cannot build on it’s 15 year legacy to beat an average Pac-10 program is the problem.

by Lord Willie on Sep 30, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Average Pac 10 program?

Irrelevant as Stanford is not average this year … or last.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Oct 3, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

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